Hail Eris! On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:40:21 -0700, pbowles@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ranted and
raved:
> On 4 Aug, 08:19, Snarky wrote:
>> Hail Eris! On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:55:38 +0100, Agamemnon ranted and
>> raved:
>> > "Snarky" wrote...
>>
>> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembetika
>>
>> >> Rebetiko, plural rebetika, occasionally transliterated as Rembetiko,
>> >> is the name for a type of Greek folk music. A roots music form of
>> >> sorts, the
>>
>> > Right. That's Wikipedia lost any vestige of credibility it might have
>> > still retained.
>>
>> > Rembetika is NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN folk music. It was invented in
the
>> > 1920s.
>>
>> > Is Charleston, Jive, Swing, Foxtrot, and Bebop folk music? NO THE
****
>> > IT ISN'T!
>>
>> > All of these genres have named composers and performers and published
>> > works. None of them are folk or bare any artistic or musical
>> > similarity to folk.
>>
>> > Is Rock and Roll folk? Is Big Band folk? Is Jazz folk? Is R&B folk?
Is
>> > Latin folk? NO THE **** THEY ARE NOT, and neither is Rembetika.
>>
>> > Rembetika is NOT traditional music. It is MODERN music, by the
>> > official definition of the term modern to refer to the music of that
>> > period and by the fact it is contem****ary.
>>
>> > Rembetika is blues, and it is considered as popular music and always
>> > has been.
>>
>> Then you will, no doubt, be happy to supply a source for your
>> contention, yes?
>
> Incidentally, does anyone else find it odd that Aggy's attributing
> rembetika influence to the blues, when as he insists on pointing out
> rembetika didn't exist until the 1920s and it seems from what's been
> posted here that the earliest true blues song can be traced to 1912,
never
> mind all the African music that predates it.
Now that you mention it...that seems like a very good reason to make
another nomination for him.
Palmjob Paddle
Named for the most-spanked person in the history of the Internet, Wilhelm
Palmer (Bill Palmer, aka "Palmjob"), the self-styled Flame Giant who has
never won a single flamewar in his existence. This award is given to the
person who gets spanked (as in, thrashed) the most in a given month, be it
by their opponents or even their own hand.
For his continuing insistence, in the face of contradicting citations
from multiple sources (not just Wikipedia), that the Greek folk music form
"rembetika" is in fact Greek blues, and that American blues is derived
from rembetika, along with his contention that all "folk music" is really
just Irish popular music in drag, despite further contradictions from
authoritative sources, I do hereby nominate for the Palmjob Paddle: the
Greek (note, this merely signifies his ethnic origin, and is in no wise
meant to insult the people of Greece, but to highlight his hypocrisy and
kookiness) Idiot known as Agamemnon, of rec.arts.drwho and two of the
soc.culture.* groups just added.
Seconds?
If there are any authorities on jazz/blues/rembetika/folk music/"Irish
popular music" in the newly-added groups, and they can substantiate
Aggie's arguments, please feel free. OTOH, if you'd just like to smack
Aggie around, or whine about cross-posting, then by all means, go right
ahead.
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