On Jan 29, 11:23=EF=BF=BDam, "Seven Inch Dilly" <no_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Geff Crawford" wrote
>
> > Is guitar backup just the slightest bit behind the beat in a dance
tune
> > with a fiddle lead? =EF=BF=BDHere's why I ask: A few times I've
overdubb=
ed over my
> > own fiddle part with a guitar backup on a multi-track recorder.
=EF=BF=
=BDIt feels
> > sort of artificial, compared with playing simultaneously with another
li=
ve
> > person in a jam, or when recording live with someone else. My
perception=
> > is that I've noticed that if the guitar isn't just slightly behind the
> > fiddle, it makes the fiddle sound uncertain, or not swingy, or somehow
o=
ut
> > of sync. =EF=BF=BDIt's all very slight, so it could just be my ear or
se=
nse of
> > rhythm. =EF=BF=BDI'd be curious if anyone else has this same
perception.=
>
> Turning this on its head, if the fiddle doesn't stay out in front of the
> backup, it will not only "...sound uncertain, or not swingy, or somehow
ou=
t
> of sync..." but it will likely drag the tempo down in a live session as
th=
e
> backup "adjusts". Good backup, whether it is banjo, guitar or (gasp)
bass,=
> is less about the placement of notes in each measure and more about
> resisting this general tendency to drag by holding up the tempo, or
"being=
> the wave".
>
> Even a great fiddler with rock solid bowing can't fight mediocre backup.
B=
ut
> solid backup can make a less accomplished fiddler sound much better.
Great=
> music happens when everyone is in the same groove. I've been in many
> informal sessions where the fiddle(s) start tunes at some tempo and
before=
> the end it is down at least 25% (e.g. from ~125 bpm to ~100 bpm). This
is
> not because the fiddler can't keep up. S/he picked the tempo with
potatoes=
,
> after all, and their next tune starts snappy again. It is inevitably
becau=
se
> the backup (guitar/banjo/bass) allows the tempo to drag. Thinking
"behind
> the beat" aggravates the problem since there is no click track in a live
> session.
John writes:
>> Frankly, I rarely think about it directly, and when I do, it just
>> confuses me! I just play from instinct.
Likewise...I can't/don't think like that.
Bill writes:
> S/he picked the tempo with potatoes,
> after all, and their next tune starts snappy again. It is inevitably
becau=
se
> the backup (guitar/banjo/bass) allows the tempo to drag.
I hate when that happens. The goal is the same groove all around.
-Greg
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