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Re: OT guitar backup

by Kellie Allen <kaallen@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Who are the "they" in that sentence? The rhythm players or the
fiddlers?


> I'm going to be the single dissenter it seems. I think it's the rhythm
> players job to hold tempo and if the fiddle is out front, then they
> are ahead of the beat.










On Feb 10, 3:29=EF=BF=BDpm, p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:54:53 -0800 (PST), Greg Loux <GL...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
> >> S/he picked the tempo with potatoes,
> >> after all, and their next tune starts snappy again. It is inevitably
be=
cause
> >> the backup (guitar/banjo/bass) allows the tempo to drag.
>
> >I hate when that happens. =EF=BF=BDThe goal is the same groove all
around=
..
>
> I'm going to be the single dissenter it seems. I think it's the rhythm
> players job to hold tempo and if the fiddle is out front, then they
> are ahead of the beat.
>
> Having said that I think there can be a place for being on one edge or
> the other of the beat in different styles. Swing to me would be lazy
> back of the beat feel. Front edge for bluegrass or some driving type
> of tune.
>
> I have a recording studio and have recorded lots of players of varying
> ability. On the computer I can literally see the beats and all there
> divisions as well as the players waveforms and where they start a
> note. What I've noted is that given either a click track, drums or a
> guitar to follow many lead players on fiddle, mandolin, banjo and
> guitar tend to get ahead of the beat especially if a bit nervous. The
> short long notes and speed through scale wise passages. Some are very
> consistently 1/64 ahead some speed up and fall back as they either
> become aware they're ahead or as they hit a hard spot.
>
> Contrary to an earlier post I find pros do not get bored by repeating
> the take, but listen to what they've done and get excited about what
> they can do to make it work even better. They also can get "in the
> pocket" with the beat and not sound mechanical.
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-01-22 19:57:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 09:39:17 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-01-23 11:44:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 13:49:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
frfiddle@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 20:41:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 21:37:56 
Re: OT guitar backup
TonyG <tonyg618@[EMAIL  2008-01-26 15:34:49 
Re: OT guitar backup
duckshoes@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-01-28 12:39:38 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-28 15:13:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-28 18:57:42 
Re: OT guitar backup
"NOSPAMCLEOMA@[EMAIL  2008-01-28 16:40:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 08:14:46 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-29 06:42:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-01-29 11:23:19 
Re: OT guitar backup
Greg Loux <GLoux@[EMAI  2008-01-29 10:54:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 18:27:43 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-10 20:29:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-02-10 22:03:54 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-11 15:33:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-02-13 20:51:07 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 07:16:32 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-14 08:22:05 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 18:23:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
wmm45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 11:35:03 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-18 14:57:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-02-18 22:29:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-20 06:37:06 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-02-20 01:50:10 

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