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Re: OT guitar backup

by paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 14, 2008 at 07:16 AM

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:51:07 -0500, Jerry Dallal
<gdallal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:03:54 -0800 (PST), Kellie Allen
>> <kaallen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Who are the "they" in that sentence? The rhythm players or the
>>> fiddlers?
>>>
>> I meant the guitar. 
>
>That makes the sentence: "I think it's the rhythm players job to hold 
>tempo and if the fiddle is out front, then the guitar is ahead of the 
>beat."  I admit I'm a bit tired, but I can't make sense of it at the 
>moment even with the additional explanation that follows.  If the fiddle 
>is out front, doesn't that make it ahead of the guitar?  If the guitar 
>player's job is to hold the tempo and the guitar is ahead of the beat, 
>what defines the beat?
>
>> The fiddle is considered a melody instrument.
>> Obviously one needs to play the fiddle rhythmically and you can saw
>> away at chords or play offbeat chops ala bluegrass, but essentially
>> fiddle is the lead melody. The guitar can play melody or  include it
>> in the voicing of the chords while fingerpicking, but it's role in
>> oldtimey is basically rhythm.
>> 
>> 
I'm so sorry I meant the fiddle not the guitar.  d' oh !
I will repeat my earlier post: " I think it's the rhythm players job
to hold tempo and if the fiddle is out front, then they (The Fiddle)
are ahead of the beat "
As I went on to say this is pretty common in my experience even with
my own playing as a fiddler, to rush and get ahead.
A little bit of nervousness and most of us tend to speed up.
This is different from the controlled playing some folks have where
they can consistently sit at the leading edge of the beat and create a
sense of movement and urgency without actually racing or losing the
beat.
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-01-22 19:57:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 09:39:17 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-01-23 11:44:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 13:49:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
frfiddle@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 20:41:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 21:37:56 
Re: OT guitar backup
TonyG <tonyg618@[EMAIL  2008-01-26 15:34:49 
Re: OT guitar backup
duckshoes@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-01-28 12:39:38 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-28 15:13:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-28 18:57:42 
Re: OT guitar backup
"NOSPAMCLEOMA@[EMAIL  2008-01-28 16:40:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 08:14:46 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-29 06:42:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-01-29 11:23:19 
Re: OT guitar backup
Greg Loux <GLoux@[EMAI  2008-01-29 10:54:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 18:27:43 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-10 20:29:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-02-10 22:03:54 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-11 15:33:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-02-13 20:51:07 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 07:16:32 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-14 08:22:05 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 18:23:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
wmm45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 11:35:03 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-18 14:57:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-02-18 22:29:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-20 06:37:06 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-02-20 01:50:10 

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