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Re: OT guitar backup

by Geff Crawford <geff@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Lyle Lofgren wrote:
> On Feb 18, 1:35 pm, wm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> I am new to this forum, but not to music, and hope my $.02 will be
>> welcome.  These days I find myself playing a lot of guitar.  I play
>> several other instruments, but there always seems like there are a
>> lack of guitars.   Everyone wants to play lead it seems.  I have
>> noticed that if I try to "match" the beat, especially with the better
>> fiddlers, that the tune will speed up before too long.  I think most
>> lead players that want to drive the song will play slightly ahead of
>> the beat, which implies that the beat is indeed the guitar. (if there
>> is no bass)  I think that this dynamic is what makes the sound
>> "real".    If  you are playing rhythm, you have to let the fiddler go
>> and hope he only stays a little ahead of you.  Hope this makes sence.
>>
>>                    Mike
> 
> Hi, Mike --
> 
> I think you'll find that the people who post on this forum are usually
> civilized -- we haven't had a virtual shouting match in years, and I
> can't even remember what that one was about.
> 
> What you say matches my experience. Have you ever run across a case
> where the fiddler slows down? I wonder if the original poster was
> playing with someone who was taking downers?
> 
> Lyle

Ah, that would be me, and I was referring to overdubbing with myself on 
guitar and fiddle.  I do drink decaf, but I don't think that's it.  I 
had phrased it as the guitar being slightly behind the fiddle 
(undoubtedly my own deficiencies on the instruments), but now I think 
it's better stated as the fiddle ahead of the guitar.  This thread has 
generated more than two schools of thought I'd say, and the one I'm in 
agrees with Mike and Lyle, if I'm reading them right.  I think the 
guitar needs to hold a steady tempo while the fiddle pushes the beat, 
though not every beat by any means.  Occasionally it would be the actual 
syncopated pu****ng that could be written as a sixteenth note tying 
across the bar line into the next measure, but most of the time it 
couldn't be written.   It would be that slightly perceptible push that 
turns a listening tune into a dancing tune.

Okay.  Too many words, but I think I know what I mean.

Geff
 




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OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-01-22 19:57:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 09:39:17 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-01-23 11:44:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-23 13:49:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
frfiddle@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 20:41:44 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-24 21:37:56 
Re: OT guitar backup
TonyG <tonyg618@[EMAIL  2008-01-26 15:34:49 
Re: OT guitar backup
duckshoes@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-01-28 12:39:38 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-01-28 15:13:28 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-28 18:57:42 
Re: OT guitar backup
"NOSPAMCLEOMA@[EMAIL  2008-01-28 16:40:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 08:14:46 
Re: OT guitar backup
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-29 06:42:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-01-29 11:23:19 
Re: OT guitar backup
Greg Loux <GLoux@[EMAI  2008-01-29 10:54:53 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-01-29 18:27:43 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-10 20:29:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Kellie Allen <kaallen@  2008-02-10 22:03:54 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-11 15:33:11 
Re: OT guitar backup
Jerry Dallal <gdallal@  2008-02-13 20:51:07 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 07:16:32 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-14 08:22:05 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-14 18:23:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
wmm45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-18 11:35:03 
Re: OT guitar backup
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-02-18 14:57:39 
Re: OT guitar backup
Geff Crawford <geff@[E  2008-02-18 22:29:18 
Re: OT guitar backup
paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-20 06:37:06 
Re: OT guitar backup
"Seven Inch Dilly&qu  2008-02-20 01:50:10 

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