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Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues

by Lyle Lofgren <lylelofgren@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 6, 2008 at 07:09 AM

On Mar 5, 11:28 pm, hucktunes <bob.h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 5:07 pm, Joel <Fiddlins...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 4:54 am, j_nsc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
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> > > Didn't Muslim music influence ....
>
> > I apologize for nit-picking, but a Muslim is a person who practises
> > the faith of Islam. "Muslim music" is a misnomer. Ali Akhbar Khan was
> > a Muslim. Is his music "Muslim music"?
>
> > > connection between Renaissance music and Arab-Islamic culture,
>
> > That's better.
>
> > The connection between flamenco,for example, and middle-eastern musics
> > has to do with the  Arab conquest that swept across the noth of Africa
> > and into Spain, bringing Arab-Islamic Moorish culture into the Iberian
> > peninsula. Islam came with it, but the music wasn't. as far as I know,
> > religious.
>
> Although the flamenco music developed in the Flemish region of Spanish
> Netherlands, hence the name Flamenco.

As the old fiddler said when told that Boneyparte didn't really cross
the Rocky Mountains, "scholars differ on this." (Anybody know who the
old fiddler was, and more details on the cir***stances, or is this
just an OT myth?). The following list of perhapses is from the Online
Etymological Dictionary:


FLAMENCO:
1896, from Sp. flamenco, first used of Gypsy dancing in Andalusia. The
word means "Fleming, native of Flanders" (Du. Vlaming) and also
"flamingo." Speculation are varied and colorful about the connection
between the bird, the people, and the gypsy dance of Andalusia. Spain
ruled Flanders for many years, and King Carlos I brought with him to
Madrid an entire Flemish court. One etymology suggests the dance was
so called from the bright costumes and energetic movements, which the
Sp. associated with Flanders; another is that Spaniards, especially
Andalusians, like to name things by their opposites, and since the
Flemish were tall and blond and the gypsies short and dark, the
gypsies were called "Flemish;" others hold that flamenco was the
general Sp. word for all foreigners, gypsies included; or that Flemish
noblemen, bored with court life, took to partying with the gypsies.

Lyle
 




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Muslim Roots, US Blues
hucktunes <bob.huck@[E  2008-03-04 11:34:45 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-05 01:54:42 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-05 03:04:38 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
Joel <Fiddlinshim@[EMA  2008-03-05 17:07:19 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
hucktunes <bob.huck@[E  2008-03-05 21:28:53 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-03-06 07:09:41 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-06 07:58:44 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
Lyle Lofgren <lylelofg  2008-03-06 09:16:14 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
"Ulf Jagfors" &  2008-03-08 07:43:30 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
j_nscott@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-09 08:29:38 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
"Ulf Jagfors" &  2008-03-10 09:00:07 
Re: Muslim Roots, US Blues
Dan T <dandante@[EMAIL  2008-03-11 16:40:39 

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