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Re: More questions on scales

by "Steve Latham" <llatham@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 27, 2008 at 08:54 PM

"Pete" <neverland@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>
> Another thing that offends my sense of rightness (:-) is that to get the
> scale from fifths, you have to start on the subdominant.  I realize that
> this is how the math works, to get those 'low ratios', but naively it's
> odd.  I suppose it's logical that the tonic should be the one that
> shares the two fifths, though.

The reason for this Pete is, that scales weren't actually derived from 
"stacking 5ths" as many people have allowed themselves to believe. You're 
not naive, and it is odd - doing so produces a Lydian mode, at best. 
Arguments that scales were (or "the scale" was) created from stacking 5ths

are full of holes just like your logic tells you - that's right, you have
to 
start from a note that's not the Tonic, which is completely arbitrary and 
evidence of inaccurate logic.

"Tonic" has do to with "elevating" a tone to a more im****tant position 
amongst the other tones. As Joey said, really, any of the 7 (or 6) tones
in 
the diatonic collection can be the Tonic. It depends on what a composer
does 
musically to promote one tone or another.

Best,
Steve
 




 31 Posts in Topic:
More questions on scales
Dylan <DDawson72@[EMAI  2008-02-25 01:28:38 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-25 11:14:14 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-25 10:49:56 
Re: More questions on scales
Dylan <DDawson72@[EMAI  2008-02-25 05:03:11 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-25 15:20:43 
Re: More questions on scales
"Alain Naigeon"  2008-02-25 18:39:51 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-25 19:25:21 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-25 14:26:12 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-25 16:33:32 
Re: More questions on scales
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-02-25 08:01:46 
Re: More questions on scales
neverland@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-26 17:57:11 
Re: More questions on scales
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-02-26 21:41:47 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-27 09:08:51 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-27 10:58:36 
Re: More questions on scales
"Steve Latham"   2008-02-27 21:08:53 
Re: More questions on scales
"Steve Latham"   2008-02-27 21:21:54 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-28 10:37:05 
Re: More questions on scales
"Steve Latham"   2008-02-28 18:51:45 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-28 23:46:39 
Re: More questions on scales
"Steve Latham"   2008-02-27 20:54:34 
Re: More questions on scales
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-02-25 11:48:38 
Re: More questions on scales
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-02-25 12:11:28 
Re: More questions on scales
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-02-25 22:48:08 
Re: More questions on scales
Dylan <DDawson72@[EMAI  2008-02-26 02:00:31 
Re: More questions on scales
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-02-26 12:07:14 
Re: More questions on scales
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 03:36:25 
Re: More questions on scales
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 04:05:57 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-27 09:22:37 
Re: More questions on scales
"David Webber"   2008-02-27 15:06:05 
Re: More questions on scales
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-02-27 04:49:08 
Re: More questions on scales
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-02-28 21:42:01 

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