Re: What's the relation****p between scales and chords?

On Feb 27, 2:37 pm, Joey Goldstein <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> LJS wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 11:10 am, Joey Goldstein <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> LJS wrote:
> >>> On Feb 26, 5:26 pm, Joey Goldstein <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >>>> Tom K. wrote:
> >>>>> Using II for supertonic hasn't been done for nearly forty years.
> >>>> On the contrary. Most jazz harmony books use upper case Roman
numerals
> >>>> for all chords.
> >>>> We don't write simply "ii" or "ii7". We write "IIm" and/or "IIm7".
> >>>> --
> >>>> Joey Goldstein
> >>>> <http://www.joeygoldstein.com>
> >>>> <http://homepage.mac.com/josephgoldstein/AudioClips/audio.htm>
> >>>> joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
> >>> the only major book that I know of that uses UC/RN has been the
Piston
> >>> Harmoy text. I am sure that there are others, but I have not run
> >>> across any books in mainstream use that does not use UC/LC with the
> >>> delimiters. I have also not run across the use of RM/maj-min etc.
> >>> either. All the texts that I have seen use the standard UC/LC RN
> >>> notation in the standard manner.
> >>> In my quest to try to keep current, an you give some examples of who
> >>> is turning back the clock to use the older system based on Piston? I
> >>> know you stated Jazz theory books, but in the cl***** that I have
> >>> taken, there was no such use of this in these cl***** either. I
don't
> >>> know why anyone would, so if there is an advantage to reverting to
> >>> this additional separation from standard theory notation, please
give
> >>> us some details.
> >>> LJS
> >> The Chord Scale Theory And Jazz Harmony, by Nettles and Graff.
>
> > The only vendor for this book that I can find is: Steve Weiss Music,
> > Percussion Instrument and Percussion Sheet Music Specialists Surely,
> > there must be something wrong with my Google as this doesn't seem to
> > indicate enough influence to set a standard.
>
> >> Modern Harmonic Progression, by Allen Michalek.
>
> > The only reference I can find for this is in an A1musicforum.com that
> > says
>
> > My favorite is: Modern Harmonic Progression by Allen Michalek but it
> > can only be ordered on the phone from the Humber College Book Store
> > here in..  and then I can't find the rest of this quote. But it is
> > somewhere in on of your chats Joey. Maybe you can shed some light on
> > to this. I usually don't have trouble finding publications on the web
> > or places that sell them. Usually if a text is setting a standard for
> > notation, it is a bit more difficult to find. Maybe you can shed some
> > light on these revolutionary new publications.
>
> >> The harmony dept. at Berklee.
>
> > Yes, the harmony dept. at Berklee and...
>
> >> Etc.
> > Yes, and what? other books that I can't find? and other notes by
> > students of cl***** without texts? Is this some kind of secret
> > standard?
>
> > But that is not my confusion. When I put those titles into Google, I
> > come up with the intro to your book in PDF format from your own book
> > and then I find a reference to the other jazz book in a chat or
> > something you have at a site called Derkeiler.com where you tout this
> > one of these books as notes taken in a theory class at Berklee that
> > did not have a text.
>
> >> --
> >> Joey Goldstein
> >> <http://www.joeygoldstein.com>
> >> <http://homepage.mac.com/josephgoldstein/AudioClips/audio.htm>
> >> joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
>
> > But that is not my confusion. When I put those titles into Google, I
> > come up with the intro to your book in PDF format from your own book
> > and then I find a reference to the other jazz book in a chat or
> > something you have at a site called Derkeiler.com where you tout this
> > one of these books as notes taken in a theory class at Berklee that
> > did not have a text.
>
> > LJS
>
> Get over it.
> What is with you?
>
> --
> Joey Goldstein
> <http://www.joeygoldstein.com>
> <http://homepage.mac.com/josephgoldstein/AudioClips/audio.htm>
> joegold AT sympatico DOT ca

Its something that you would not understand Joey. Its called truth.
You post some obscure writings by some of your friends and claim that
they set the standard for functional notation. Even if these books
were what you claimed them to be, they would not have anything like
the universal acceptance required to set a standard. Its just
extremely phony. There is enough misinformation and misunderstanding
in the world without someone making up things to sup****t silly claims
and statements.
LJS