Steve Latham wrote:
> "Joey Goldstein" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:fqen00$7iq$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> It has been proposed (accused?) by Lemuel J Schenck (can I call you
>> "Lemmy"?) that for some reason using upper case Roman numerals in an
>> harmonic analysis in and of itself somehow puts many limitations on the
>> analysis than using lower case Roman numerals would.
>>
>> Anybody here care to attempt to demonstrate how merely UC RNs is
>> necessarily more limited in and of itself?
>
> Something I don't think has beein pointed out Joey- there are THREE
systems
> here
>
> UC/LC (I is major, i is minor).
> UC with modifiers (I is Major, Im is minor). I'm going to call this UCMm
> hereafter.
> UC with "out of mode" modifiers (I is major in major, I is minor and
minor,
> and I"m" is minor in major, and I"M" is major in minor)
>
> I think Lemmy is talking about UC only, not UCMm (which is what I think
you
> use).
The Berklee UC only style always spells out chord quality, except for
major triads.
In C:
I = C
Im = Cm
Imaj7 = Cmaj7
etc.
Now that we've established that, I thank you for all the typed
information, but you really haven't told me anything I don't really know
already (except for the descriptions of the UC w/o modifiers style of
analysis....yech), and you haven't really addressed my question.
As for Berklee-style analysis not recognizing things like the Neapolitan
chord, well, you've sort of got a point, depending on what angle you're
coming from. We recognize it as bII but don't really care much about its
origins per se and have less strict voice leading rules for dealing with
it. Plus we're also happy to borrow even more chords from the parallel
phrygian than just bII. So IMO this is not really a weakness. It allows
us to deal with this sonority in ways that a CPP theorist would not
allow. To my way of thinking, that's an advantage, not a disadvantage.
As for inversions, like I said, with Berklee-style analysis those are
specified in the chord symbols. So we *do* make note of them.
--
Joey Goldstein
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