"Joey Goldstein" <joegold@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> The inversions are a good point
>
> Does an analysis need to consider them?
>>IMO, not usually.
>>But when an inversion does affect the harmonic function it's a good
>>idea to mention that someway.
How do you mention it in those cases?
> In CPP analysis, we do, so any symbol that doesn't include inversion
> information is no good.
>
> So IIm to represent a ii chord in first inversion isn't helpful.
>
> Dm/F is helpful, but it obviously lacks the "non-note specific" elements
> that we use numerals for in the first place.
>>Like I said earlier, the jazz analysis would usually have the chord
>>symbols present as well, just like a classical analysis usually has
>>the notation present.
Oh - I see what you meant now - no, actually, we don't always have the
notation present - in many cases, it's simply Roman Numerals, especially
in
writings. Sometimes examples are included, but that's kind of the whole
point about RN - and more especially now, UC/LC, is that you can define
everything except the number and voicing of the upper notes. You've got
the
root, the quality, the inversion, and if you know the key, that also tells
you the bass note specifically, and the other chord tones generically. We
know that if it's 4 parts and root position, the root will be doubled, and
if its 6/4 the 5th will be doubled (exceptions in either case exits) and
in
many things, we know some other specifics, like if we have V7-I, we know
the
7th of the V7 will go down to the 3rd of the I chord (in virtually all
cases) and the remaining voices (since we know the bass) become almost
inconsequential. In many cases, you will see things like "to harmonize
^3..." so we even know the soprano note - and in that case, it's
practically
tablutare without the rhythm notation version - we can make assumptions
that
are fairly accurate about everything - not that we need to take it that
far.
Now, of course it is nice to have a notated example, and hopefully, the
actual example from which the analysis is drawn, but often enough, there
are
no graphics to go along with the numerals.
Steve
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