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Re: Hypertonality?

by Hans Aberg <haberg_20080207@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 5, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Tom K. wrote:
> "Jack Campin - bogus address" <bogus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:bogus-C752A8.01463005032008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Anyone ever encountered Hypertonality, or Hypotonality (as terms,
>>>> not as hyperactive key changes in a piece :-).
>>> Hypertonality means having quarter tone intervals, so there are 34
>>> tones per octave, tuned in just intonation. This scale is derived from
>>> generating a harmonic series on each successive pitch in a single
>>> harmonic series taken from a chosen fundamental.
>> That doesn't make any discernible sense.  Quartertones...

In some quarters, the term "quartertone" is used to indicate what is 
properly called "microtone". A reason might be that one at first 
experimented with true 12-TE quartertones, that is, 24-ET, but one 
discovered pretty soon that is not correct.

I think "fractiontone" is better, as it brings our the quality of not 
falling close to intonations of the standard diatonic scale.

>>... are incompatible
>> with both 34 tones to the octave and with just intonation.
>>
>> I suspect you've been taking Wikipedia seriously.  Mistake.

> And confusing Penderecki with Chris Rainier as well.
> 
> http://www.chrisrainier.poddle.info/wordpress/?page_id=9

34-ET is in fact a god approximation of the intervals 3/2 and 5/4, but 
not 7/4, and the interval 5/4 does not fall ona an even key, producing 
major seconds of different sizes. And the page says the idea is to 
approximate Just.

So 31-ET is better for approximating Just: The intervals 3/2, 5/4, and 
not 7/4 are fairly well approximated, and 5/4 falls on an even key. SO 
playing is normal, if one just does not apply 12-ET enharmonic
equivalence.

If one wants to approximate the intervals above well in Juts, and accept 
different sizes of the major seconds, then 53- and 72-ET are better.

   Hans Aberg
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
Hypertonality?
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-04 22:59:18 
Re: Hypertonality?
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-03-04 15:47:26 
Re: Hypertonality?
Jack Campin - bogus addre  2008-03-05 01:46:30 
Re: Hypertonality?
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-05 01:41:00 
Re: Hypertonality?
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-03-05 10:30:35 
Re: Hypertonality?
SleepyHead <simonharph  2008-03-07 02:51:00 
Re: Hypertonality?
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-07 05:07:32 
Re: Hypertonality?
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-03-04 22:03:18 
Re: Hypertonality?
"Fiona Abrahami"  2008-03-05 11:37:57 
Re: Hypertonality?
"David Webber"   2008-03-05 14:48:34 
Re: Hypertonality?
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-03-05 07:50:36 
Re: Hypertonality?
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-05 15:12:16 

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