Re: Quicky about naming a chord

antalabel1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 15, 3:06 pm, Joey Goldstein <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> antalab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Mar 15, 11:35 am, Joey Goldstein <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> antalab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> I'm having trouble picking an appropriate name for this chord:
>>>>> Notes; C#/Db D#/Eb G B
>>>>> Its for jazz, and I'm putting it on a lead sheet, so I'm wondering
>>>>> which chord would be the simplest to use.
>>>>> key of Cmaj btw.
>>>>> Is it: G+/Db, Dbm7b5sus2, Cmin(maj7)/Db, Emin(maj7)/Db, Abmin(maj7)/
>>>>> Db, etc, etc.
>>>>> They all look really awkward to read (as a guitar player, anyway).
>>>>> Anyone have anything simpler?
>>>> I'd have to see more of the context.
>>>> What are the two chords immediately preceding it and the two chords
>>>> following it?
>>>> Just based on the intervals though, it might be Eb7#5/Db.
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>>>> Joey Goldstein
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>>>> joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
>>> Alright so its:
>>> Emin7  Ebmaj7#11  |  D7sus(13)  G+/Db  |  Cmaj7      |
>>> G+/Db is what I've named it, for now.
>> In that case then it's functioning as Db9b5(no 3rd).
>> Assuming that you're playing it like this:
>> X 4 1 0 0 X
>> with b as your melody/top note... then I think there are other voicings
>> of Db7 with B on top that would sound better there.
>> Try this:
>> 9 8 6 0 0 X
>>
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>> Joey Goldstein
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>> joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
> 
> The way im playing it now is like:
> 
> X 4 5 4 4 3
> 
> 
> Anyway, from the responses i gather that G+/Db, Eb7+, and Db9b5(no
> 3rd) are all fine choices. Joey (and other guitar players), which
> would you prefer to see on a lead sheet?

No, in this instance it is not Eb7#5.
It is functioning as a partial voicing of SubV7 in the key (i.e. a 
tritone substitute dominant chord substituting for G7) or as an altered 
partial voicing of V7 with an alternate bass note.
You could use either of the following chord symbols to indicate this:
Db9(b5)(no3rd), G+/Db,
But G+/Db is probably the better choice, IMO.
Which chord symbol you pick has nothing to do with whether or not a 
guitar player or some other instrumentalists will be the one reading it. 
It just has to make sense. And usually if you have a choice between two 
chord symbols that make sense, but one of them takes up less room on the 
page, we choose the the one that takes up the least room.

But again, why you'd want to use this particular voicing here is 
questionable. Why are you doubling the G and omitting the F? Without the 
F the cadential feeling is much weaker.
X 4 3 4 4 3
would probably be stronger.

Also, what grip are you using for the chord that you are calling 
"D7sus(13)"? Why are you omitting the F from this chord?

Actually, what are the grips for all the chords in the progression please?

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