Re: Quicky about naming a chord

"LJS" <ljschenck@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 17, 9:28 am, "David Webber" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>  Rule no 1 of survival, give or take hurricanes, in New
>> Orleans is to go for Creole music and Cajun cuisine - not the other way
>> round :-)
>
> ...Creole refers to a
> cuisine and to a mixture of native ethnic groups that has has various
> subtleties over the years. Some of the early musicians to play Jazz
> were Creole, but I have yet to hear or read about the term "Creole
> Music". Would you care to tell me where you ran across this term and
> what is means?

Aside: More generally "a creole language" refers to a pidgin language
which 
has achieved the status of being the native language in a community (as 
opposed to one simply used to communicate among non-native speakers).  
The 
Caribbean coast of the USA has (had?) a French Creole which is the example

in question here.   As applied to people it can mean the community which 
speaks the language,  a Latin American of West Indian of mixed race,  or a

citizen of the southern USA of French or Spanish descent.   "Cajuns" were 
French speakers originally de****ted from Canada to Louisiana in the 18th 
century - by the good old Brits of course :-)   (I believe the word comes 
from "Arcadia" which is where they came from.)

But you got the point when you said "Some of the early musicians to play 
Jazz were Creole".   But you understated it.   The Creoles were very
central 
in the development of early jazz (around 1920+/-),  and it was jazz to
which 
I was referring (rather than what I suspect may be more modern usages 
outlined by Tom).

In fact the person who invented jazz (and I know because he said so and 
often <g>) was a Creole:  Ferdinand Joseph La Menthe (among other
spellings) 
1885-1941, known to history as Jelly Roll Morton.   All his stuff is 
brilliant, but his ca1926 Red Hot Peppers recordings are the absolute 
epitome of New Orleans (creole) jazz and have never been bettered IMHO.

Another of the truly great early jazz bands was "King Oliver's Creole Jazz

Band".    This was the one in which Louis Armstrong played 2nd cornet 
before, arguably, surpassing the master.     Joe Oliver notably took the 
band up the river to Chicago (at the very start of the process of
ex****ting 
jazz from New Orleans) and so the name of the band was clearly a claim to 
authenticity as jazz was starting to establish itself there!

So yes, for me "creole music" = "jazz"  definitely.

Dave
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