On Mar 23, 3:48 am, Ray Johnstone <r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:17:24 -0700 (PDT), LJS <ljsche...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Mar 22, 10:38 pm, Ray Johnstone <r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> In the analysis that comes with the B&H score of Brahms 1st symphony,
> >> the recapitulation in the 4th movement begins at bar 185. But this is
> >> the introduction of the big tune of the movement. What's going on?
> >> r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >I couldn't find a link on your page of the score in question. How is
> >it labeled?
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> I've just now put it athttp://members.iinet.net.au/~ray/brahms.jpg
> r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
must be misunderstanding or misreading either your question or the
very sketchy synopsis in the text. My Brahms scores, with everything
else, are gone with the Whims of Katrina so I can't just go and take a
closer look. But That is certainly the im****tant theme that is played
in the horns. It is the moment that most horn players work for years
to get a chance to play with a large group. (We did this in College
and I was not principle, but was playing 3rd I think in the Horn
Section that semester.) The thing is, even if this is classified as
an introduction rather than a theme, (and I am not sure, without the
score, if this should be the case) or if it comes at a different
position in the recapitulation but it still returns at the end,
wouldn't this still be a recapitulation? I don't remember exactly what
come where here, but the recapitulation only really means that it is
"returned at the end". Brahms has had the precedence of Beethoven and
others to show that the Form can be expanded and modified to suit his
feelings and instincts concerning his form. I think that he has earned
the right, at least in my opinion, to put it anyplace that he wants as
he feels that it is appropriate, if that is actually the case. (I
don't doubt you, I just don't have it in front of me) So if it is
there in the beginning, and it comes back at the end, isn't that a
recapitulation?
Or did I misunderstand your concern? Sorry if I caused you work
posting the scan with out anything specifically to add. If I can find
a file, I will try to listen to this piece. It has been too long
anyway, and I will let you know if I hear what you are talking about.
Or if I find a complete score or reduction I will try to do the same.
Thanks for taking the time to post this scan.
LJS
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