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Re: Tritone Subs

by "Anthropus" <Anthropus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 24, 2008 at 10:57 PM

"Steve Latham" <llatham@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:n9EFj.943$o35.928@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> All this talk has gotten me interested.
>
> When do Tritone Subs come on the scene?
>
> Is it something where players started substituting these chords for a V7

> in an already written piece, or where composers actually writing them
in?
>
> Are they found in Glenn Miller? Where people doing them in "head" 
> arrangements (any that were written out)?
>
> Anyone got a "Brief History of the Tritone Sub"?

I think it arose in the nineteenth century, without any attempt to think
of 
it as a 'tritone substitute' for something, but rather as an extension of 
the idea of the 'German sixth' -- the augmented 6th interval now expanding

to an octave on the tonic, instead of on the dominant. Intermediate steps 
might perhaps have involved the use of a Ger6 as a common tone decorative 
chord, with the augmented 6th resolving to the fifth of tonic harmony (as
in 
Schubert's 'Am Meer'), and the use of a common tone diminished seventh
chord 
resolving in the same way. Calling it a 'tritone substitution' might just 
have been a handy way of getting players to push the right notes down 
without spending rehearsal time on obscure theoretical definitions --
though 
having said that, it ought to be pointed out that quite a bit of atonal
and 
serial music has been analysed in terms of tritone-related keys...

Sorry if this has all been said here before...

M.
 




 19 Posts in Topic:
Tritone Subs
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-24 02:15:47 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Anthropus" <  2008-03-24 22:57:42 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Alain Naigeon"  2008-03-25 01:49:28 
Re: Tritone Subs
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-24 18:36:03 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Alain Naigeon"  2008-03-25 03:20:46 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Alain Naigeon"  2008-03-25 03:25:53 
Re: Tritone Subs
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-24 21:53:34 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-25 14:43:36 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-24 19:35:20 
Re: Tritone Subs
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-03-25 11:52:36 
Re: Tritone Subs
"David Webber"   2008-03-29 13:14:59 
Re: Tritone Subs
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-29 08:32:46 
Re: Tritone Subs
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-03-25 11:57:52 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-25 14:50:17 
Re: Tritone Subs
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-03-25 20:34:13 
Re: Tritone Subs
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-25 09:48:15 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-25 14:58:01 
Re: Tritone Subs
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-25 11:16:57 
Re: Tritone Subs
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-25 19:41:22 

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