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Re: Labelling Jazz Chords

by "Steve Latham" <llatham@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 3, 2008 at 08:09 PM

"David Webber" <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Steve Latham" <llatham@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Should I, or Should I not, include extensions in the chord symbol if
they 
>> are found in the melody?
>>
>> For example, in 3/4, I have an upward arpeggio of B-D-A, with the first

>> two notes as 8ths, thus making the A a half note for the remaining two 
>> beats.
>>
>> If this is over a GMaj7 chord, should I put GMaj7, or GMaj9?
>>...
>
> It depends on your *purpose*.
>
> For the rhythm guitar part, do you want him to play the note (in this
case 
> the A) as part for the chord, or do you just want him to play Gmaj7 
> against the note in the melody?   Write what you want to get.

Well, I'm putting a symbol in the Guitar, Piano, and Bass parts at this 
point. I suppose it's "OK" if they play the A. My inderstanding is, even
if 
I write GMaj7, there's a strong possibility that any one of those players 
will add a 9th (and for that matter #11, or a 13 , etc.).

>
> For a soloist, do you *really* need to tell him its a Gmaj9 and not a 
> Gmaj7? I suspect it doesn't matter much as he'll more than likely feel 
> quite free to include a 9th there either way if he feels it sounds right

> :-)

Right, that's what I assumed. Hell, they could go outside and it really 
doesn't matter. I would put it in their part only to let them know what I 
was putting in the others' parts.

>
> OTOH for significantly more complicated chords than this, I for one 
> actually prefer to read "simpler" rather than "fuller" representations
of 
> the chord. In the solo one doesn't just play notes on the chord, and I 
> find all the extra detail distracting.   But I suspect that is a matter
of 
> taste.

The ride I have is very simple:

||: DM7 - GM7 - DM7 - bm7 - Em9 - A9 - Em9 - A9 :||

I don't see any point in puttin in the 9ths in the first 4 meausres. The 
only reason I included them in the last four is becuase the other 
instruments come in with little counter-melody descending lines in
parallel 
3rds/6ths that touch on the 9ths of those chords and it seems the 
accompaniment works better including the 9ths under those.

Steve
 




 23 Posts in Topic:
Labelling Jazz Chords
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-24 02:13:05 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Fiona Abrahami"  2008-03-24 11:43:38 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-24 11:22:14 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-24 10:23:55 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Neil <nhmiller@[EMAIL   2008-03-24 21:25:22 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-03-25 11:38:10 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-25 09:46:18 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Steve Latham"   2008-03-25 14:55:14 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-25 19:38:29 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-27 10:13:01 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-27 12:45:45 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-27 13:05:30 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-27 14:30:45 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Joey Goldstein <nospam  2008-03-27 15:26:15 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Tom K." <tk  2008-03-27 15:49:38 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Steve Latham"   2008-04-03 20:01:40 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Tom K." <tk  2008-04-03 21:57:08 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
LJS <ljschenck@[EMAIL   2008-03-27 12:28:18 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
ttw6687@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-25 19:05:54 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"David Webber"   2008-03-29 13:44:40 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Steve Latham"   2008-04-03 20:09:04 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
Pete <petezilla@[EMAIL  2008-03-29 19:00:55 
Re: Labelling Jazz Chords
"Steve Latham"   2008-04-03 20:12:18 

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