Re: Melodies move by step in any form of music?

On May 29, 9:18 am, "David Webber" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "LJS" <ljsche...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >  In his own composition of West Side Story, which one could say
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> was written in the "genre" of Jazz
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> One could say it,  but it wouldn't be true.     Just because it is 20th
> century doesn't make it jazz, and I'm having difficulty trying to work
out
> what there is about ot which makes you think it has anything to do with
> jazz.

It was a loose connection that related to the misconceptions of an
apparent novice to musical styles. LB said that he was influenced by
Jazz while writing this piece. Cool, has become somewhat of a Jazz
standard for one song. Personally, I hear it as an attempt to use some
jazz harmony and voicing in a revolutionary new approach to a very old
art form based on a very old story. Don't hurt yourself by trying to
"work out what there is about it that makes me think  it is, I only
stated that way to relate the examples that were stated by the OP.

I will admit, it is not very much like your concept of the early
stages of Jazz evolution that you attribute to the Creoles. I would
say that it is in a jazz style as related to the more 20th century
movements to compose jazz tunes and other forms. Is there
improvisation? No. But I can see the influences. Maybe if you don't
try to read more into my post than there were, you may see what I am
talking about more easily.

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> > Not to mention the augmented 4th/diminished 5th that is sometimes
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> characteristic of the Jazz Style or Genre
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> ???

You don't think that the tritone is one of the characteristics of
Jazz? Look at the first scale that most jazz players learn. The Blues
scale. It is simply a La Penton with the addition of the tritone. Is
it the only form of music that uses this interval? I don't think so
and I did not state that it was. What would make you take that leap?
Certainly nothing that I have said.

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> It is an interval which is used in all sorts of ways, by all sorts of
music,
> including in a dominant 7th chord which predates jazz by centuries.

Thanks for sharing that with us. What does if have to do with
anything?

LJS

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