Re: Chord Function?

On Jul 17, 11:20 am, "Tom K." <tkor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, LJS <ljsche...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Jul 16, 10:33 am, tonydecap...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > I refer to Jazz theory as a *separate entity* from traditional theory
> > (European Classical Theory), just that. "New Order", may be an
> > ambiguous and off-the-cuff( bordering on pompous) remark, but I was
> > trying to convey that jazz theory has evolved over the past 50 years
> > to meet the needs of the idiom, based on not only chords of the
> > seventh, but advanced chord progressions, modal interchange (albeit
> > most likely first written about by Schoenberg), deceptive cadence
> > material far beyond the mere use of mediant and sub-mediant behavior,
> > on and on into the Ozone. We bless Wagner( and his Tristan chord),
> > Debussy, Stravinsky and the like, but the actual evolution of jazz
> > theory as a separate entity evolved much later on as the music
> > advanced. Jazz Theory is based on the European classical theory, yes,
> > and expounds upon it to meet the needs of the jazz idiom. There are
> > countless examples of this in our literature. I am assuming that an
> > "argument" is being delivered over the idea that Classical theory
> > covers jazz; it does not.
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> So you are really talking about jazz musicians introducing a "new order"
> which was theory, not the new harmonic system your earlier post implied.
 As
> to Classical theory covering jazz, if by Classical theory you mean CPP
tonal
> theory, then it covers a subset of jazz just as it covers a subset of
> classical music.  It has been greatly expanded by both classical and
jazz
> theorists ("Jazz Theory is based on the European classical theory") to
cover
> other types of jazz as well as post-tonal classical music.
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> Tom K.

Jazz Theory is a separate entity.

-TD