Re: Chord Function?

<tonydecaprio@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 17, 7:03 pm, "Tom K." <tkor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> Indeed, Wagner broke away from the old European classical music
> theory. He may have been the *first*  (one of the first, if that makes
> certain individuals feel better). We discussed Wagner already. Jazz
> Theory is still a separate theory. Yes, I would say around 1859 he
> made a clean break from major/minor system; a system that clearly very
> limited nowadays dealing with Jazz music; as that old system usually
> functioned to point to the tonic as the main pitch.

Not a totally clean break as the bulk of his harmony (80%?) was still 
major/minor functional.  But the other stuff certainly did transcend 
traditional tonality.

> Actually Trane's Giant Steps was an indirect influence from his
affection 
> for
> Slonimsky's Thesaurus. When I say European Classical Theory, btw, I
> refer to the theory that began around the Baroque error and predates
> the pioneers like Wagner, and Schoenberg. They opened the doors for
> the new theory.

That's what I assumed you meant - your "European Classical Theory" is what

we call CPP (Common Practice Period) tonality.

Tom K.