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Re: Lucy tuning

by Graham Breed <x31equsenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 19, 2008 at 01:07 AM

Hans Aberg wrote:
> Margo Schulter wrote:
>> However, much Renaissance music does _not_
>> assume a circulating system -- and some people who wanted it
>> went further, and used 31-note keyboards which would circulate
>> in 1/4-comma or thereabouts.
> 
> This link says Huygens discovered the close relation****p between 
> meantone and E31:
>   http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/english/huygens.html

It says he demonstrated it.  Not that he discovered it, in 
the sense that nobody knew it before.  And the page itself 
mentions precedents.

> But ETs is just a convenient way to produce tunings. The main point is 
> that the music is diatonic: any choice of minor and major seconds will 
> produce an intonation.

For suitable definitions of "diatonic".  Some of us prefer 
to say "meantone" in a general sense.  The defining feature 
is that four perfect fifths add up to a major third, give or 
take some octaves.  There were plenty of just intonation 
scales called "diatonic" throughout history.

> Only some modern music use the enharmonic equivalence of E12 in an 
> essential way. But for music produced in E12, as in a MIDI file, the 
> problem is to extract the underlying diatonic structure before retuning.

There's more to it than that.  Chromatic chords still have 
to be tuned and sometimes a chord may work best with a 
tuning outside meantone theory.

> If this can be done, there seems to be no practical music difference 
> between the Lucy tuning and E88. The difference between the fifths of 
> the tunings is too small be heard even harmonically.

Yes, probably.


                       Graham
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
Lucy tuning
bagatell@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-07-03 22:08:32 
Re: Lucy tuning
"Steve Latham"   2008-07-04 15:37:26 
Re: Lucy tuning
Danny Schorr <.@[EMAIL  2008-07-04 15:45:45 
Re: Lucy tuning
"J.B. Wood" <  2008-07-04 14:13:36 
Re: Lucy tuning
Bagatell   2008-07-05 13:03:27 
Re: Lucy tuning
Graham Breed <x31equse  2008-07-05 21:15:54 
Re: Lucy tuning
"Steve Latham"   2008-07-05 23:17:07 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-09 20:03:28 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-10 12:13:56 
Re: Lucy tuning
"Steve Latham"   2008-07-10 15:32:59 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-10 17:52:07 
Re: Lucy tuning
Roland Hutchinson <my.  2008-07-10 18:16:59 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-10 20:35:36 
Re: Lucy tuning
Margo Schulter <mschul  2008-07-14 00:16:12 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-14 11:25:17 
Re: Lucy tuning
Graham Breed <x31equse  2008-07-19 01:07:21 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-18 19:48:48 
Re: Lucy tuning
wood@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-21 07:23:00 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-21 16:02:35 
Re: Lucy tuning
"J.B. Wood" <  2008-07-21 11:18:20 
Re: Lucy tuning
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-21 18:13:47 
Re: Diatonic Scale (was Lucy Tuning)
"J.B. Wood" <  2008-07-21 15:49:14 
Re: Diatonic Scale (was Lucy Tuning)
Hans Aberg <haberg_200  2008-07-21 22:35:33 
Re: Lucy tuning
zakak <lswilliams1@[EM  2008-07-30 18:53:38 

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